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a survey of 800 obama voters split right down the metal on the political ppll on how they want obama to cut the deficit. 41 percent responded in favor of spending cuts. 41 percent of respondents saying they favor tax increases. the white house says it will offer a counterproposal to house speaker proposal. saying that unless he accepts tax increases on the rich the president is willing to go over the cliff. let's get straight to the politics of these developments and the rhetoric and possible economic impact of failure to resolve the issues. joining as, former special assistant to president george w. bush, a veteran political consultants and republican pollster. let's start, if i may, with you. do you think both sides right now are seriously ready to go over the cliff? >> i think the president is very ready because they are reading into this election last month a mandate that i simply don't see. the president got 15 million americans to vote against him which fail to produce any type of meaningful budget in his democratic controlled senate. we are at the disco club because of the pre
a survey of 800 obama voters split right down the metal on the political ppll on how they want obama to cut the deficit. 41 percent responded in favor of spending cuts. 41 percent of respondents saying they favor tax increases. the white house says it will offer a counterproposal to house speaker proposal. saying that unless he accepts tax increases on the rich the president is willing to go over the cliff. let's get straight to the politics of these developments and the rhetoric and possible...
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and eisenhower were doing something right that a clear majority the american people liked but what could that be we're all pretty familiar with the platform on which obama won reelection but what about eyes you know well a simple read of the republican party's nine hundred fifty six platform gives you all the answers you need they started out by noting that the republican party of nine hundred fifty six was in support of all the people not just the millionaires and the corporations they wrote our government was created. by the people for all the people animals serve no less a purpose we are proud of and shall continue our far reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs expansion of social security really broadened coverage and unemployment insurance while whole improved housing and better health protection for all our people we are determined that our government remain warmly responsive to the urgent social and economic problems of our people. first this was before paul ryan was born i could as republican buddies also like to the idea of being part of an international pea
and eisenhower were doing something right that a clear majority the american people liked but what could that be we're all pretty familiar with the platform on which obama won reelection but what about eyes you know well a simple read of the republican party's nine hundred fifty six platform gives you all the answers you need they started out by noting that the republican party of nine hundred fifty six was in support of all the people not just the millionaires and the corporations they wrote...
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we'll be right back. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? president obama won 77% of not as well. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. president obama won 77% of not as well. r ] imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can help reduce this pain. tell your doctor right away if your mood worsens, you have unusual changes in mood or behavior or thoughts of suicide. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. cymbalta is not approved for children under 18. people taking maois or thioridazine or with uncontrolled glaucoma should not take cymbalta. taking it with nsa
we'll be right back. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? president obama won 77% of not as well. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. president obama won 77% of not as well. r ] imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low...
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"hardball" starts right now. >>> obama to boehner, get serious. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. the republicans have their plan, and it's great news for the rich. speaker john boehner just put it out. those at the top, the 2%, are safe. your bush tax cuts are going to keep on giving. one problem, mr. boehner, you lost. that was your position before the election, and you lost. mitt romney campaigned on keeping the tax cuts for the wealthy, and he lost. and he promised to do what john boehner is doing right now, and he lost. how about some respect for the electorate? how about seeing what the 2012 presidential debate was about? obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again,
"hardball" starts right now. >>> obama to boehner, get serious. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. the republicans have their plan, and it's great news for the rich. speaker john boehner just put it out. those at the top, the 2%, are safe. your bush tax cuts are going to keep on giving. one problem, mr. boehner, you lost. that was your position before the election, and you lost....
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. >> stephanie: right. and that isn't true. >> stephanie: that's right. well they wrote a letter to the president -- boehner and six other house republicans, they insisted the election return obama to the white house and the gop return to the house requires both parties to come together in a fairground. but we know that didn't happen. i think everybody is aware, right, that it is the gerrymandering that has returned -- what they are calling middle ground is not middle ground, right? >> it isn't middle ground and there wasn't a dead locked election. they forget a couple of things number 1 that there was an election, and the people spoke and number two if you look at every survey -- i guess the second point is in this campaign there was a clear, clear outline by the president of where he stood, no secret. there had to be a continuation of the middle class tax cut, and an end of the tax cut for the very wealthy in -- in 2010 they got over 90%, the upper 1% -- 90% over that of the income growth, and the third point, the surveys show after the election all of
. >> stephanie: right. and that isn't true. >> stephanie: that's right. well they wrote a letter to the president -- boehner and six other house republicans, they insisted the election return obama to the white house and the gop return to the house requires both parties to come together in a fairground. but we know that didn't happen. i think everybody is aware, right, that it is the gerrymandering that has returned -- what they are calling middle ground is not middle ground, right?...
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as it stands right now the white house has end kaltsed it will not respond to speaker boehner's offer unless the gop agrees to raise top marginal tax rates. the president did do a little explaining over twitter yesterday. asked, is there a minimum ratio of revenue increases to spending cuts that you're looking for or simply a balanced approach? the president responded -- don't expect 100% my budget, room to negotiate. if you include $1 trillion plus in cuts already made, rough balance between revenue and cuts does trick. i'm having a hard time translating the president's tweets. translation, i won't get everything i want but at least -- but i want at least as much in revenue as in cuts. he was asked as a homeowner, i worry deductions for homeowners are at risk. is that the case. the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have y
as it stands right now the white house has end kaltsed it will not respond to speaker boehner's offer unless the gop agrees to raise top marginal tax rates. the president did do a little explaining over twitter yesterday. asked, is there a minimum ratio of revenue increases to spending cuts that you're looking for or simply a balanced approach? the president responded -- don't expect 100% my budget, room to negotiate. if you include $1 trillion plus in cuts already made, rough balance between...
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and this agreement is not just people on the left or people on the right to motorcross the spectrum. and we saw a sort of bold experimentation at the beginning of the obama administration with the stimulus lobbying administration on its own deciding to expand the way it was tracking this kind of information. >> but there was massive under compliance. >> yes. >> and that is just it. the problem. you can have a great policy. >> we are talking about looking into the crystal ball and on stopping the plumbing. is this an area that bears constructive attention? >> absolutely. we do need greater disclosure. disclosure and transparency is the key. transparency for money and politics. these areas that we need to push for. the administration made valiant tries to my but they're is a lot of steam on that. >> without question then is to be greater transparency. >> oftentimes to people talk about campaign finance. and you know, in as surgeon respect they are, but in many respects it is about how people and close the political system and weighs as proportionate, sometimes it is disproportionate in
and this agreement is not just people on the left or people on the right to motorcross the spectrum. and we saw a sort of bold experimentation at the beginning of the obama administration with the stimulus lobbying administration on its own deciding to expand the way it was tracking this kind of information. >> but there was massive under compliance. >> yes. >> and that is just it. the problem. you can have a great policy. >> we are talking about looking into the crystal...
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obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. joining me is joy reid of the grio and howard fineman of the "huffington post." joy, you're chuckling because it is weirdly true. it's almost like groundhog day, this guy, boehner, he's not a bad guy, but he's operating on a bad thought here. the election didn't happen. >> it's incredible. it's amazing watching john boehner reach for anything, simpson/bowles which, by the way, assumed that the tax cuts for the top 2% would be gone, but he forgets about that, and boehner is trying to offer the same exact policies that mitt romney ran and lost on, that the republicans tried to negotiate with the white house. it is incredible. and the only way i can explain this, the only
obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. joining me is joy reid of the grio and howard fineman of the "huffington post." joy, you're chuckling because it is weirdly true....
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let's get you on the right path. call today. ♪ >>> all right. so with 2016 speculation already under way, many are wondering what is next for one of the nation's most popular political figures. first lady michelle obama. now, the latest washington post poll puts the first lady's favorable rating at 69%, just behind barbara bush. but more popular than hillary clinton and laura bush. alison samuels, it's good to have you here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> all right. so everyone want to know if michelle obama would follow into the political for she has said that she's not interested in politics but it hasn't stopped people from asking that question. >> no, it doesn't. >> when she appeared at the democratic convention in september, i think people were reminded of how smart and engaging she is and that started the chatter of, what if she ran for public office given that she's or the of able to galvanize people with her speech, her smile, with her sort of -- she's so passionate about everything that she talks about, all o
let's get you on the right path. call today. ♪ >>> all right. so with 2016 speculation already under way, many are wondering what is next for one of the nation's most popular political figures. first lady michelle obama. now, the latest washington post poll puts the first lady's favorable rating at 69%, just behind barbara bush. but more popular than hillary clinton and laura bush. alison samuels, it's good to have you here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having...
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right now, seven governors are about to walk into a meeting with president obama. they are both republicans and democrats. they all want to know how he's going to handle the fiscal cliff crisis. they will also meet with john boehner. boehner counter proposal yesterday. $600 billion in cuts in entitlement and $250 billion in changes in way the government changes inflation that would impact social security. let me bring in the national journal from the editor. good morning. i want to talk to you about this republican proposal saying republicans in congress want to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates. we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach to the deficit. it does have some revenue in it, even though it's not from tax increases. so what does this opening offer say about where we are in these negotiations? >> well, it seems very difficult to imagine that we're going to be getting to a deal that will handle everything that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. i think the first main thing that needs to
right now, seven governors are about to walk into a meeting with president obama. they are both republicans and democrats. they all want to know how he's going to handle the fiscal cliff crisis. they will also meet with john boehner. boehner counter proposal yesterday. $600 billion in cuts in entitlement and $250 billion in changes in way the government changes inflation that would impact social security. let me bring in the national journal from the editor. good morning. i want to talk to you...
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and president obama right? >> we were talking right before the show that they're discounting the provisional ballots which are these contested ballots when people vote on election day and there's some question whether they're registered or whether they're -- it is not the voter's fault. it is board of elections fault. there were a couple hundred thousand at least of those. they're just finishing them. and it gave the president we think, another 50,000, 6,000 or 70,000 vote margin from what we had before. these are votes that the election machinery in ohio now has -- the people running it have a partisan edge to them. when i was secretary of state in the '80s, we didn't have that. they've about provisional balloting. >> bill: they tried to shut down the early voting for the last weekend before the election except for military families. >> judge said they couldn't. in many ways, it probably backfired because i heard a lot of people say that in the churches and other places, people were saying ministers and others
and president obama right? >> we were talking right before the show that they're discounting the provisional ballots which are these contested ballots when people vote on election day and there's some question whether they're registered or whether they're -- it is not the voter's fault. it is board of elections fault. there were a couple hundred thousand at least of those. they're just finishing them. and it gave the president we think, another 50,000, 6,000 or 70,000 vote margin from...
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. >> that's right and president obama in august clearly delineated those red lines that if they were to move these out of their storage site or to employ them against the syrian people or anyone else that would be a trigger point for some type of western action. now, depending -- the pentagon has drawn up preliminary plans to send as many as 75,000 troops into syria to secure these chemical weapons sites, but as of just today there have been no signs that any of those forces have been put on alert or there was any detail planning to do this. so there was some question here of whether assad may be calling t president's bluff. >> rose: and what exactly do you think they would be prepared to do and what would trigger that? clearly the movement of them. but it is more or less than that? >> well, u.s. intelligence officials were watching very closely the movement of syrian forces and in also trying to divine the intentions of president assad. clearly the rebels in syria have had a very good few -- past few weeks and making advances on the capital of damascus and president assad really fee
. >> that's right and president obama in august clearly delineated those red lines that if they were to move these out of their storage site or to employ them against the syrian people or anyone else that would be a trigger point for some type of western action. now, depending -- the pentagon has drawn up preliminary plans to send as many as 75,000 troops into syria to secure these chemical weapons sites, but as of just today there have been no signs that any of those forces have been put...
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you know what the latest obama conspiracy theory is? >> what? >> stephanie: that he is trying to get a third term. >> oh right. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: he'll need a third term to get the rest of your guns. >> oh. >> stephanie: quarter stands burry is now trying to cash in on some of the public's dislike of president obama. on monday over a listener previously devoted to newt gingrich's presidential campaign, he warned that president obama is secretly trying to seek a third term. [♪ mysterious music ♪] >> stephanie: he said the election was actually at steak was whether or not he will have a third term. [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> uh-huh. >> stephanie: but he can't because it's in the constitution that a president can only serve two terms. >> stephanie:. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] >> stephanie: world net bailey to spread sanatorium. the conservative news -- rick santorum will be joining the slate of commentators as an exclusive columnist. it will appear every monday just to mark your calendars. [ applause ] >> okay the
you know what the latest obama conspiracy theory is? >> what? >> stephanie: that he is trying to get a third term. >> oh right. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: he'll need a third term to get the rest of your guns. >> oh. >> stephanie: quarter stands burry is now trying to cash in on some of the public's dislike of president obama. on monday over a listener previously devoted to newt gingrich's presidential campaign, he warned that...
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will the president and congressional democrats just blow it right out of the sky? we'll break it all down. >>> plus the mississippi river in crisis. water levels dropped to historic lows threatening to bring commercial traffic to a halt and spike food prices. have you even heard about this? the head of one mississippi barge operator joins us whether a disaster can still be avoided. >>> would you sublet your name for an entire year? a bidding war breaks t for e right to one man's name. he is here to explain his bold idea and how he is cashing in. even when they say it's not it is always about money melissa: first let egg look at the day's market headlines. concern over the fiscal cliff bleeding into the u.s. manufacturing sector. factory activity in november declined for the first time in three months. the news weighted down stocks helping shed 59 points off the dow the raw materials sector hit hard by the contraction in manufacturing. shares of dupont were the biggest loser closing down 2%. dell getting golden endorsement from goldman sachs today. the investment ba
will the president and congressional democrats just blow it right out of the sky? we'll break it all down. >>> plus the mississippi river in crisis. water levels dropped to historic lows threatening to bring commercial traffic to a halt and spike food prices. have you even heard about this? the head of one mississippi barge operator joins us whether a disaster can still be avoided. >>> would you sublet your name for an entire year? a bidding war breaks t for e right to one...
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with more to moderate here is that for a former colony won the right to determine its own best of the. test of perfecting the more you have moved forward was four weeks following barack obama's reelection nearly one million americans have moved forward by campaigning to break apart all fifty states have filed online petitions with the white house requesting to peacefully secede from this so-called perfecting union a movement that's garnered more than thirty thousand signatures in north carolina. where many like michael toggled. see independence as a symbol may twentieth a consistent one is the day that north carolina saved from the union and america stars and stripes ripping at the seams there's no doubt in my mind that it is inevitable i mean something like this with the debt this country has with the growing disunion in the among the people they can't last forever and that's through the lesson of history big empires always collapse on their own weight secession supporters like bernard first some say washington's weight of growing debt and loose wars government intrusion and a broken
with more to moderate here is that for a former colony won the right to determine its own best of the. test of perfecting the more you have moved forward was four weeks following barack obama's reelection nearly one million americans have moved forward by campaigning to break apart all fifty states have filed online petitions with the white house requesting to peacefully secede from this so-called perfecting union a movement that's garnered more than thirty thousand signatures in north...
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but we see president obama getting tougher right now on what he's calling for while the republicans, if you look at the numbers, they're really not asking for as much. i think we're seeing speaker boehner getting his ducks in a row to cut a deal that is going to try to get settled before the fiscal cliff goes over. >> bill, "the washington post" today has a poll which says 53% of americans are likely to blame republicans and just 27% the president if they don't agree on a fiscal cliff. we know that after the election, 60% of people said let's raise taxes on the wealthiest. what more does john boehner need? >> i don't understand the republicans' thinking on this. i really don't. this is power politics. they don't have the leverage in this situation. if they don't cut a deal within the next 30 days, you're going to see tax rates rise on all americans. you're going to see huge cuts in the defense budget. we're probably going to have a double dip recession, and until the congress then gets its act together to fix it and lower rates on the middle class, you will have the republicans essen
but we see president obama getting tougher right now on what he's calling for while the republicans, if you look at the numbers, they're really not asking for as much. i think we're seeing speaker boehner getting his ducks in a row to cut a deal that is going to try to get settled before the fiscal cliff goes over. >> bill, "the washington post" today has a poll which says 53% of americans are likely to blame republicans and just 27% the president if they don't agree on a fiscal...
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that is the message that president obama needs to hear. unfortunately, there's growing evidence to indicate that he's not interested in striking any deal at all. now, he may, in fact, want us to all go over the fiscal cliff. after all, he would be able to point the finger of blame at the republicans to get all the tax hikes he wants, all the defense cuts he's always wanted and some democrats are stating flat out they want to go over the fiscal cliff. watch this. >> i personally think you'll get a lot more deficit reduction if we do the fiscal cliff. i think the markets will reward the fiscal cliff over a period. there will be some panic and moaning and groaning, but first of all, the fiscal cliff is not a real cliff. it's a slope. and you're going to get the biggest bank for the buck in terms of deficit reduction. i think the economy can stand it. yes, we will go into two quarters of recession the cbo says, and i believe that. we're in deep trouble here. somebody's going to have to pay the bill. it's going to have to be all of us. >> joini
that is the message that president obama needs to hear. unfortunately, there's growing evidence to indicate that he's not interested in striking any deal at all. now, he may, in fact, want us to all go over the fiscal cliff. after all, he would be able to point the finger of blame at the republicans to get all the tax hikes he wants, all the defense cuts he's always wanted and some democrats are stating flat out they want to go over the fiscal cliff. watch this. >> i personally think...
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i'll make a prediction right here. if they bring these charge up against adelle son's company they'll go on and talk about how obama has an enemy's list like nixon did. they will do that because they want to protect their main political benefactor, the guy who has given them $150 million. those insiders have talked to "huffington post," and now adilson is going on a trip. he said while here in washington he has arranged meetings in which he is expected to discuss key issues, including possible changes to the foreign corrupt practices act the anti-bribery law that under girds one federal probe into his casino network with knowledge of this plan. one other thing why have two republican insiders who are on his side leaked in information including spending $150 million to "huffington post"? now wouldn't that normally make him look like a fool? he spent all this money and got nothing? no he wants to put the word out on the street to republicans and democrats alike. see where this money came from? there is a lot more money w
i'll make a prediction right here. if they bring these charge up against adelle son's company they'll go on and talk about how obama has an enemy's list like nixon did. they will do that because they want to protect their main political benefactor, the guy who has given them $150 million. those insiders have talked to "huffington post," and now adilson is going on a trip. he said while here in washington he has arranged meetings in which he is expected to discuss key issues, including...
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investigating right now. why won't they let us know what they found. >> bob: accept the fact, even if it was to cover up for obama's campaign, i'll accept that. let it go. there is nothing to talk about it. >> andrea: let it go? >> bob: they pushed the video to cover up for the obama campaign. i agree with you. that is a huge story. huge story. >> bob: how many times are you going to say it? >> greg: keep saying it until something happens. >> eric: four murders. >> bob: they pushed the video to help him get re-elected. that is a hell of a story to win a pulitzer. i would. >> bob: he was not supposed to be there. >> greg: if romney was president, different story. he'd be i peached. >> andrea: it was the ambassador's fault? he wasn't supposed to be there? >> bob: you called it an embassy. >> andrea: consulate. british embassy was bombed before and that should have triggered to us secure our own. >> bob: bomb in libya. there's a surprise. >> greg: coming up, from devil to diplomat. the inspiration for devil in "
investigating right now. why won't they let us know what they found. >> bob: accept the fact, even if it was to cover up for obama's campaign, i'll accept that. let it go. there is nothing to talk about it. >> andrea: let it go? >> bob: they pushed the video to cover up for the obama campaign. i agree with you. that is a huge story. huge story. >> bob: how many times are you going to say it? >> greg: keep saying it until something happens. >> eric: four...
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president obama's policy below for the next many years. the amazing work you did with all of us on fuel economy standards and enforcing the clean their act, which i just want to say unfortunately those two are not candidate dress. if they were here, i would address them. colleagues here and others stopped many who try to roll back the clean air act as it pertained to missions coming from utility and other polluters. i was critical because we want to be much more direct. i don't speak for anybody else on how we approach this. i just feel people have to understand that the promise that we made and we have initial studies show the progress we've made only because we fight so hard rolling back of my colleagues on the other side but the environmental writer after environmental writer. and if they don't see from superstore and sandy, the future if we just go along, i am very disturbed for our children and our grandchildren. i just want to thank you, senator whitehouse for your amazing leadership day after day. people don't know every time they s
president obama's policy below for the next many years. the amazing work you did with all of us on fuel economy standards and enforcing the clean their act, which i just want to say unfortunately those two are not candidate dress. if they were here, i would address them. colleagues here and others stopped many who try to roll back the clean air act as it pertained to missions coming from utility and other polluters. i was critical because we want to be much more direct. i don't speak for...
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absolutely right. the most important way to look at iscal cliff debate, the math is fine to go through it but the most important question in my mind will there be serious structural entitlement reforms. melissa: right. >> the kinds of reforms that will yield savings well down the road, even beyond, 10, 15, 40 year windows we're talking about. what are the structural reforms that would produce those kinds of results. those are only things we should be clear. the only things that would actually make a difference. the kinds of spending you're seeing to a great extent on the fiscal cliff and president's plan and lesser extent to the republican plan, largely discretionary spending cuts. a lot coming out of defense. these are not long-term structural changes that will put us on a path to a balanced budget. that will not happen. melissa: the other thing that struck me about the graphic when you look at it, the threat from republicans hey, we would rather go over the cliff rather than take the president's deal
absolutely right. the most important way to look at iscal cliff debate, the math is fine to go through it but the most important question in my mind will there be serious structural entitlement reforms. melissa: right. >> the kinds of reforms that will yield savings well down the road, even beyond, 10, 15, 40 year windows we're talking about. what are the structural reforms that would produce those kinds of results. those are only things we should be clear. the only things that would...
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the cause for all the concern right now including the statements from president obama and secretary clinton is the reports from this weekend. reports from this weekend quoting intelligence sources saying there was "heightened activity at some of syria's chemical weapons sites." raising the prospect that the government might feel like they are losing the war they are fighting with conventional weapons and may be looking to their chemical weapons supplies out of desperation. there's no reason to be alarmist about this going on, but this is also alarming enough now that it makes sense to be paying attention and paying attention closely. and toward that end, i want to highlight one other detail of the story. the last time the international community noticed unusual activity around syria's chemical weapons site, the last time the world freaked out that maybe the syrians were going to gas their own people, the last time this happened was in july. and in july this is who stood up for the syrian government and said, don't worry t will never happen. >> any unconventional weapon that the public posse
the cause for all the concern right now including the statements from president obama and secretary clinton is the reports from this weekend. reports from this weekend quoting intelligence sources saying there was "heightened activity at some of syria's chemical weapons sites." raising the prospect that the government might feel like they are losing the war they are fighting with conventional weapons and may be looking to their chemical weapons supplies out of desperation. there's no...
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is right in the short term. right now it's the postures pr phase of the entire negotiations, but we're probably going to see the negotiations start in ernest around middle september, close to the christmas holiday season. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power move as it's described by speaker boehner. who are the strongest allies. we've seen paul ryan all but vanish here other than when we put the picture up on the committee and who is on it. who are the allies supporting speaker boehner that are team players? >> there was a criticism in the suspicion about a year ago that even some of john boehner's top deputies weren't always on board. that came about during the debt ceiling debate of 2011 where there was a lot of suspicion where eric cantor the house majority leader was on the sa
is right in the short term. right now it's the postures pr phase of the entire negotiations, but we're probably going to see the negotiations start in ernest around middle september, close to the christmas holiday season. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power...
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a budget deal. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know, he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates and when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> and what do governors want with the president and house republicans at an impasse over how to avoid the fiscal cliff, a bipartisan group of governors arrives in washington for a meeting. >> our focus today was not to endorse a specific plan nor to dismiss a specific plan, but rather to point out, as gary mentioned, as governors, we think it's important that we have a seat at the table. >> flash point serious, secretary clinton in brussels where nato leaders are sending patriot anti-defense missiles to turkey and warning syria of any thought of using chemical weapons. prince william leaves the hospital after visiting kate. she remains hospitalized for severe morning sickness. good day. i'm amount li-- andrea mitchell live in washington. the senate has managed to vote on something, rejected a u.n. treaty to extend r
a budget deal. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know, he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates and when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> and what do governors want with the president and house republicans at an impasse over how to avoid the fiscal cliff, a bipartisan group of governors arrives in washington for a meeting. >> our focus today was not to...
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we will be right back after a very quick break. >> coming up on lou dobbs tonight 7:00 eastern, obama wants the wealthy to pay for 8 days of running the federal government. that still leaves a trillion dollars deficit. get serious. former ways and means committee chairman congressman bill archer joins us tonight at 7:00 eastern. stuart: well, the tax on dividends is going to go up next year. maybe by 3.8%. maybe by a whole lot more. depending on the fiscal cliff. larry ellison, top guy at oracle, he had an early dividend payout. he got a check for almost 200 million dollars. he saves 56 million by not getting that money next year. liz? liz: yeah, this is true for a lot of companies. it's the insiders who own stock in the companies that are making these moves. the so-called 1%. you know it is within their rights to do it. but what bothers me are those who say we must pay our fair share, the executives who are for, you know, raising taxes, that we have to sacrifice, and then they are avoiding higher taxes in obama care, as you point out over the break, nothing to do with the fiscal clif
we will be right back after a very quick break. >> coming up on lou dobbs tonight 7:00 eastern, obama wants the wealthy to pay for 8 days of running the federal government. that still leaves a trillion dollars deficit. get serious. former ways and means committee chairman congressman bill archer joins us tonight at 7:00 eastern. stuart: well, the tax on dividends is going to go up next year. maybe by 3.8%. maybe by a whole lot more. depending on the fiscal cliff. larry ellison, top guy at...
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>> today, president obama resisted suggestion he was cornered on a potential rights nomination. i'll make sure that we have a full national security team. that can give me the best advice possible. do everything they can to keep the american people safe. susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador but i haven't made a decision about secretary of state. >> tomorrow on capitol hill, second round of closed classified briefings will be held for members of the house. testimony from the nation top intelligence officer among others. aside from the c.i.a. talking points, lawmakers say they want more definitive information on the level of premedication by the terrorists and how early it was known. bret? >> bret: thank you. >>> still ahead -- what is the big hold up for obamacare? first, president george w. bush on the piece of the economic recovery. it might surprise you. side is frightful ♪ ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow can i still ship a gift in t
>> today, president obama resisted suggestion he was cornered on a potential rights nomination. i'll make sure that we have a full national security team. that can give me the best advice possible. do everything they can to keep the american people safe. susan rice has done a great job as u.n. ambassador but i haven't made a decision about secretary of state. >> tomorrow on capitol hill, second round of closed classified briefings will be held for members of the house. testimony...
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how that changes president obama's stance on a possible intervention. john boehner offered up his own plan to avoid the fiscal cliff today. does it add up? and the u.s. ambassador to the united nations comes under fire again. this time, it's over ra wwanda. let's go "outfront." evening, welcome, everybody. i'm soledad o'brien. breaking news. president obama puts the syrian president bashar al assad on notice. the president is reacting to new notice that the regime is mixing with chemicals to make deadly gas. and today, i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is an would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> assad is on the edge of president obama's so-called red line against syria. the president said the summer that syria's use or movement of chemical weapons could mean u.s. intervention, so "outfront" tonight, barbara starr. how exactly clear is the evidence in
how that changes president obama's stance on a possible intervention. john boehner offered up his own plan to avoid the fiscal cliff today. does it add up? and the u.s. ambassador to the united nations comes under fire again. this time, it's over ra wwanda. let's go "outfront." evening, welcome, everybody. i'm soledad o'brien. breaking news. president obama puts the syrian president bashar al assad on notice. the president is reacting to new notice that the regime is mixing with...
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all right. there is a new voice joining the immigration debate with hispanic voters overwhelmingly siding with president obama for the second straight election. the trio of latino mega donors including eva longoria are launching a new group aimed at mobilizing that energy and enthusiasm. the primary focus is to grow a strong social media presence and help the white house in passing comprehensive immigration reform. they see this has a chance to work with republicans who may be wobbling after losing a second straight presidential loss. >>> the secretary of state is denying she is running for president for 2016 insisting she just needs time off. michael bloomberg has another idea. according to "the new york times," blook called clinton to encourage her to run for mayor in 2013. the call reportedly took place months ago and hillary said thanks but no thanks. this comes as a recent headline from the new yorker editor david riddick declared hillary is running. he reads that conclusion after witnessin
all right. there is a new voice joining the immigration debate with hispanic voters overwhelmingly siding with president obama for the second straight election. the trio of latino mega donors including eva longoria are launching a new group aimed at mobilizing that energy and enthusiasm. the primary focus is to grow a strong social media presence and help the white house in passing comprehensive immigration reform. they see this has a chance to work with republicans who may be wobbling after...
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right now it appears that the use of ground forces is pretty much out of the question because it would take a massive invasion to try to control those chemical weapon sites. now air strikes are a possibility but, chuck, if you strike those chemical weapon sites -- >> you don't want to put that in the air. >> reporter: that, too, could spread the deadly chemicals. the most viable option right now may, in fact, be direct air strikes against the assad regime targets themselves perhaps even president assad. >> all right. i want to quickly ask about this iranian claim that they captured a small u.s. drone, u.s. navy, i know, has already said all unmanned air vehicles have been accounted for that are operating in the middle east region. are you hearing anything different? what could iran think it has that it doesn't or is it another country's drone? >> reporter: if you look at iran's video, it is a scan eagle drone which, quite frankly, sort of like honda civics. everybody has one. you can buy them pretty much on the open market. the belief is that they got it from the persian gulf state, un
right now it appears that the use of ground forces is pretty much out of the question because it would take a massive invasion to try to control those chemical weapon sites. now air strikes are a possibility but, chuck, if you strike those chemical weapon sites -- >> you don't want to put that in the air. >> reporter: that, too, could spread the deadly chemicals. the most viable option right now may, in fact, be direct air strikes against the assad regime targets themselves perhaps...
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. >> obama is going for it all. >> why shouldn't he? >> she is right. >> he has no actual reason why raising taxes will help the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope they meet in the middle. >> he doesn't have to come down though. i agree with compromise. i would say 51% voted for this. you know what, go ahead. it is like having a teenager that you keep telling, vegetables are good for you and they keep kicking your shins saying, i am not eating the vegetables. finally i say, eat twinkies until you die. >> you can't because twinkies have been eliminated. >> someone is going to buy them. >> last word to you, bill. >> geitner says this is going to happen, but we have to go through a little political theater. they want people to come together an
. >> obama is going for it all. >> why shouldn't he? >> she is right. >> he has no actual reason why raising taxes will help the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope...
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across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned on and said he wanted. they called it smart. we had the simpson bowl plan. deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to rich. or broaden the base of the tax base. including more people paying taxes. this is a joke on top of joke, andly give you this. entitle reform are good ideas. calling the -- >> dana: i thought bush tax cuts only help the rich. i defended that for eight
across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned on and said he wanted. they called it smart. we had the simpson bowl plan. deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good...
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"the situation room" begins right now. >>> happening now, president obama says we're out of time for anything but a down payment for solving the nation's spending crisis. >>> amid fears, the government may resort to chemical weapons, nato says yes to turkey to giving them patriot missiles. we'll talk to the former british prime minister, tony blair. >>> as they await a new heir to the throne, the british consider changing the rules about who can become king or queen. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with president obama's latest ideas for getting past the standoff with house republicans. he now says there isn't enough time left to do a comprehensive deal, including tax reform, fixing medicare. so he wants congress to raise tax rates for the wealthy right now and putting off the hard work to next year. they have 28 days left to make a deal before the country hits what's called the fiscal cliff. that's a combination of across the board tax increases for everyone, coupled with cuts in spending like defense, education, health care, and housing assistance. le
"the situation room" begins right now. >>> happening now, president obama says we're out of time for anything but a down payment for solving the nation's spending crisis. >>> amid fears, the government may resort to chemical weapons, nato says yes to turkey to giving them patriot missiles. we'll talk to the former british prime minister, tony blair. >>> as they await a new heir to the throne, the british consider changing the rules about who can become king...
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last week at the right house, we had our first meeting since the election. it was a chance for me to banks -- thank my entire team for their service for keeping the country safe and strong. few have done more than you in that regard. that includes taking care of our remarkable men and women in uniform and their families. keeping our military the best in the world bar none. thank you for being such an outstanding secretary of defense. [applause] i am not here to give a big speech. i wanted to come by and join you in marking the 20th anniversary of one of the country's smartest and most successful national security programs. people in this room conceived it and build it. i want to a knowledge a leader who now helps guide the secretary of defense. thank you for your great work. [applause] you have to think about what real visionaries do. you look at the world and see what is missing. they set out to fill the gap. to build something new. to imagine after decades of confrontation how our nations might engage in cooperation. early in the cold war, einstein warned
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treaty advocating equal rights for disability facing significant opposition. host: tune in to c-span2 3 coverage of the senate. next caller. but the make of this latest back-and-forth? the gop sending of their proposal to the white house yesterday. this caller: is danny from college park, ga.. host: go ahead. caller: greta, i have never seen a group of people who are so willing to be lied to. republicans like to their people all through the election. the only people who were surprised that the president won are people who watch fox news. just like that, a proposal that john boehner puts out. he's trying to say that it is from the bowles proposal but erskine bowles came out yesterday and said flat out that the proposal the republicans put out does not mimic his. therefore, the republicans are lying again. republicans and the tea party people, they know that they are lying. it is just that simple. the president put out a proposal. ok. don't criticize the president for the proposal. show us a real proposal. do not ask us to trust you. host: reporting in "the new
treaty advocating equal rights for disability facing significant opposition. host: tune in to c-span2 3 coverage of the senate. next caller. but the make of this latest back-and-forth? the gop sending of their proposal to the white house yesterday. this caller: is danny from college park, ga.. host: go ahead. caller: greta, i have never seen a group of people who are so willing to be lied to. republicans like to their people all through the election. the only people who were surprised that the...
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>> i think it's a big problem for the obama administration and for the country. the president was right on september 12th when he said that the world needs to understand that when the united states is messed with there will be retribution, and what we've seen thus far, whether it's in the ap story, or a new york times story with one of the suspected plotters of the attack sipping fruit drinks with reporters, or, you know, the fact that the fbi continue get on the ground for several weeks after the attack there doesn't seem to be the urgency that the president suggested that there would be. i think the world needs to see that beyond the immediate concern of just bringing to justice the people who actually committed the act. bill: why does it appear to be such a low priority? what would explain that? >> well one guess would be that it isn't a high priority. this is not something that seems to have taken up a lot of time of folks in the white house, of folks elsewhere. i think if there were the urgency that the president said there would be we would have seen much m
>> i think it's a big problem for the obama administration and for the country. the president was right on september 12th when he said that the world needs to understand that when the united states is messed with there will be retribution, and what we've seen thus far, whether it's in the ap story, or a new york times story with one of the suspected plotters of the attack sipping fruit drinks with reporters, or, you know, the fact that the fbi continue get on the ground for several weeks...